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word clock withouit apogee card

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:54 am
by seasiderecording
I have had my d8b setup for 13 years with apogee card and a motu 2408 to digital performer.

I have a second donated d8b pretty much working that I want to use in my school classroom in an identical setup.

Well, Almost identical. the new board has only the stock clock card and I am getting dropouts when recording.
this board also has the tdif / lightpipe cards. I am using lightpipe connections.

Do I need to use a BNC syn cable between one of the D8b cards and the 2408? I didn't use one. I do at my own studio setup though with sync set to wordclock.But I have the apogee card at home.

Any suggestions on the proper hookup and settings for this to work? Do I need the apogee card for this to work?

Thanks for any help.

Re: word clock withouit apogee card

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:49 am
by Carlo
I use the same system. My d8b is currently hooked up to a 2408MK2 through lightpipe sync. Set the motu control panel from your pc to clock through ADAT A, B or C. no need for wordclock.

C

Re: word clock withouit apogee card

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:44 pm
by Crash
Seaside, I am assuming you are using DIO.8 cards if you are seeing BNC connections. Those particular BNC connections are setup for Tascam clocking as I recall. Here is what I pulled from the site.

All versions of DIO-8 will function with older Tascam DTRS recorders (DA38's, DA88's & DA98's). The TDIF interfaces on these devices require the clock signal from the DIO-8 card's BNC sync output, with the exception of the MX2424 - which can also be clocked from the Word Clock output of the Apogee Clock I/O card.

Re: word clock withouit apogee card

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:07 pm
by seasiderecording
I tried setting it to adapt and other settings too. Settings other than internal on the 2408 do not work at all.
I have my old clock card from my studio d8b. I guess I could try that.
The cars may also put out optical data if it is synced by tdif.

Re: word clock withouit apogee card

PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:08 pm
by seasiderecording
Carlo, do you have the apogee clock card in your setup?

Re: word clock withouit apogee card

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:17 pm
by Crash
seasiderecording wrote:Carlo, do you have the apogee clock card in your setup?


I know I am not Carlo, but I recall a thread with Carlo where we went through this scenario. He does not have an Apogee clock card and is using the stock clock card as I recall. I also found this on the site if it helps:

Can I sync other devices to the D8B via ADAT (ODI - light pipe) or AES EBU without the Sync card?
Yes. ADAT/ODI and AES/EBU can be locked to as clock reference. The D8B must be in Internal mode. You can even chain devices using ADAT ODI or AES EBU. - See PDI-8 (AES) or OPT-8 (ODI - light pipe)

Re: word clock withouit apogee card

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:33 pm
by FrankH
I know I am not Carlo, but I recall a thread with Carlo where we went through this scenario. He does not have an Apogee clock card and is using the stock clock card as I recall.

Huh? Three up from the bottom of page 2 of that thread: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1001 , Carlo states:
I grabbed another APOGEE Clock card so i have TWO d8b's each with an apogee clock card.

It would appear he is now working with a pair of Apogee clock card equipped D8B's.

Re: word clock withouit apogee card

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:36 pm
by Crash
I recall a thread with someone, I guess it was not Carlo, where they were able to clock through the optical lines on the d8b side anyway. Sorry, my memory is far from perfect, I have tried to find the thread but I have struck out thus far. Anyway, that was the point.

Re: word clock withouit apogee card

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 10:25 pm
by Carlo
Hi there,

In fact now i'm working with an apogee but my d8b was hooked up to ADAT for 8 years and it worked fine. Have you tried and configure your MOTU control panel to ADAT A, B or C?

Sorry for the late reply but i was sick

Re: word clock withouit apogee card

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:58 pm
by Carlo
Make sure that the bank you are clocking to e.g. Bank A its ins/out are set to ADAT not analogue.