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I don't have a Midi card in my D8B, where can I get one

PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:37 pm
by Larmond
I didn't get a midi card when I bought my D8B, but I want to use my console as a controller for Logic 9. I have 5.1 installed. Can I syn using lightpipe connection, I have apogee fro the time code. how do I setup? I'm new to this, any help would be great.

Re: I don't have a Midi card in my D8B, where can I get one

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:36 am
by High C Double G
Hi Larmond,

The MIDI card has a D-sub connector, 9-pin I think, so it doesn't look like a regular MIDI port(s). Not sure if you know this. Also, eBay is about your only way to get the right one if you don't have one. There are a couple of US sellers that have a specialty for selling used d8b parts and you can try them. Hope this helps,
Michael

PS: oh I just noticed your other question... you can not sync without a MIDI card. You definitely need a MIDI signal to get the machines to link up.

Re: I don't have a Midi card in my D8B, where can I get one

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:55 am
by synthjoe
I think it has to be a MIDIMAN WINMAN 1x1 ISA card, quite difficult to get these days. Check for the 9 pin D-sub connector, it is quite rare that a desk comes without, as it can hardly be used for anything else... ;)

EDIT: got a picture for you...

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d8b MIDI card
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Re: I don't have a Midi card in my D8B, where can I get one

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:16 pm
by FrankH
Just to cover the bases because Larmond is new to the D8B.


I'm sort of assuming you're a little unfamiliar with the various bits of I/O and where they are located.
When you say you don't have a MIDI card....where are you looking? On the back of the D8B itself or the PSU?

Are you looking for a pair of traditional 5 pin MIDI connectors?

What Hi C and Synthjoe (and thanks for that photo) are pointing you to is the card that resides in the back of the PSU itself. I mention this because many times people who buy used D8Bs typically find themselves missing not the MIDI card itself, but rather, either the one-piece MIDI breakout plug or "pigtail" breakout cable.

Here's a photo of the "one-piece" connector version and where it is located on the PSU.
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And I sure hope it's just the breakout connector you're missing, as that is fairly easy to cobble together. Check the DATABASE for the wireup, if that is the case.

Re: I don't have a Midi card in my D8B, where can I get one

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:39 pm
by Larmond
Thanks Guy for your help I do have a nine pin card on the back of my CPU, so I need to try and find a break out cable, I'll Check the DATABASE for the wireup, does the cable need to be wired in a special way or will any breakout cable work??

Re: I don't have a Midi card in my D8B, where can I get one

PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:21 pm
by synthjoe
There's no 'standard' breakout cable readily available from a regular supplier on the market AFAIK (apart from those on ebay, which might be a gamble at times), so you're best off rolling your own, if you can. Nothing complicated, modest soldering skills should suffice - plus the parts needed, of course. Make sure you get the pin numbering right on both the Sub-D and DIN connectors as MIDI signals are polarity sensitve - i.e. will not work if you connect the wires the wrong way by accident.

Re: I don't have a Midi card in my D8B, where can I get one

PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:02 am
by FrankH
Waddya know....I made a good guess. Okeydoke. Here's wiring chart and finished product .jpg's lifted from our database. You should be able to find the connectors fairly easily from the 'net.
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Once you have the parts and a foot or so of decent shielded stereo (2 conductor) cable, it shouldn't take you more than an hour to cobble this.

Re: I don't have a Midi card in my D8B, where can I get one

PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:49 pm
by angrychone
I have an older mac running Logic. I'm trying to interface my d8b with a Midisport Uno but I can't get it to see the d8b. It says that it's not getting any information. I was wondering if there was something in the Mackie Real Time 3 software that I needed to do to make sure it's sending midi info. I will post more specifics when I get home, but I was hoping someone would know what to do.

Thanks!

Re: I don't have a Midi card in my D8B, where can I get one

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:40 pm
by McKay Records
Larmond I just sent you a message about parts!!!

Thanks:

McKay Records