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Re: Need help configuring D8B...

Postby Casey_Pittman » Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:40 am

Ohhh i thought you were running a full version of cubase. Yeah that's the problem right there Cubase LE is limited on the I/O. I had my first run in with LE4 about 4 years ago and it was only 8 I/O at a time. Cool for demos in the garage but not for full on production.

I would def suggest getting to know cubase if you don't already then throw down on the full version when you can. The extras are worth it.

For your input routing in the RME matrix just do a 1->1 set up. It should parallel the output assignments the whole way down.

Good luck,

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Re: Need help configuring D8B...

Postby FrankH » Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:04 pm

For your input routing in the RME matrix just do a 1->1 set up. It should parallel the output assignments the whole way down.

TotalMix Preset 1 and 2 are usually set up this way. If I remeber correctly, if you ControlClick on a Preset button, it re-establishes the default factory setting.
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Re: Need help configuring D8B...

Postby Casey_Pittman » Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:28 pm

FrankH wrote:
For your input routing in the RME matrix just do a 1->1 set up. It should parallel the output assignments the whole way down.

TotalMix Preset 1 and 2 are usually set up this way. If I remeber correctly, if you ControlClick on a Preset button, it re-establishes the default factory setting.


Good to know frank. Mine was just ready to go when I opened up for the first time. And since I don't need to do any crazy routing or HP mixes from it I just left it alone.

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Re: Need help configuring D8B...

Postby BrianJ » Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:01 pm

I'm going to try that control click as soon as I get home...

Messed with it for hours again last night still no luck...I have no signal to the rme total mix from the d8b at all...

Should the d8b outputs (the actual Adat cable) have visible light going through it at all times? I need to check that.

Also, reading the rme manual, it seems that there are three Adat status possibilities..."no lock", "locked", and "synched"...I think if you have two way communications it should say "synced", but mine only shows "locked"...I need to check the d8b Adat outputs somehow...is there a way to check the output somehow? I think all my other equipment accepts Spdif optical, but that's different from Adat I think...

Any suggestions will be appreciated...thanks!

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Re: Need help configuring D8B...

Postby Casey_Pittman » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:45 pm

synched is for when your syncing with ADAT and Locked is for when there is a connection between 2 devices(I think) no lock means nothing is connected.

Yes there should be light going through the output cable at all times.

If your RME matrix is not setup right I'm not surprised that you don't see any level in totalmix. I'll say it again. Get the Matrix set up correctly either by the way frank described or doing it manually.

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Re: Need help configuring D8B...

Postby BrianJ » Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:30 am

Ok, I tried the "control" click method and it didn't seem to make a difference... :(

I asked the question over at the rme forums and they seem to think that theres a problem with the D8B outputting the signal to the RME...here's the link

http://www.rme-audio.de/forum/viewtopic ... 596#p76596

...they said to check the D8B routing to make sure it's right...but there's really nothing to check that I can find? Is there a way to see if it's actually sending anything out???

Here's my d8b settings again...

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And here's the 9652 settings...

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I don't get it...it seems everything is setup properly...they said on the rme forum that the submix should matter at all, I should still see an input signal in the RME mixer if there's a signal coming in...

Here's the input/output routings in the mixer...

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It just doesn't work. Is there another way to check the d8b output?

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Re: Need help configuring D8B...

Postby anyhorizon » Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:51 am

This thread is pretty lengthy so I haven't read it all but do you have an input assigned to an output on the d8b? Either direct to tape or to a group which also has to be assigned?

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Re: Need help configuring D8B...

Postby FrankH » Mon Aug 27, 2012 6:03 am

Aside from the two obvious things: Are the ADAT cables plugged in correctly and have you assigned any D8B input (like a mic) to an actual bus output directly or through a Group....how are these VST Connection pages looking in Cubase?
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Obviously these are for the MOTU unit on my iMac. Yours should be the RME. The listing name that shows up in each leftmost column should be what shows up in the Input and Output connection selectors on any Cubase audio track (and outputs on VSTi tracks). Your screenshot on page 2 leads me to believe you've missed this critical setup step.
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Re: Need help configuring D8B...

Postby BrianJ » Mon Aug 27, 2012 7:18 am

anyhorizon wrote:This thread is pretty lengthy so I haven't read it all but do you have an input assigned to an output on the d8b? Either direct to tape or to a group which also has to be assigned?

Peter


I feel so stupid now...this was the problem Peter... :oops: Nothing was assigned an output... :oops:

SO now i have audio coming into the RME mixer! I can get it into Reaper and Cubase...at least I know that the D8B and RME hardware are working now!

Now I can get onto testing to see if the preamps in the D8B are going to work for me or if I need to get a better interface...I hope they'll be ok, but so far I'm not too sure...I use an SM7B as the main mic for my brother but it seems to really need alot of preamp to get good level out of it...My old Roland VS2480 did "ok" with it, but the D8B preamps seem to have to be turned WAY up and they seem quite noisy...I'll have to play with it a bit more...

Thank you everyone for helping me through this...it's much appreciated!

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Re: Need help configuring D8B...

Postby FrankH » Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:35 am

but the D8B preamps seem to have to be turned WAY up and they seem quite noisy.

The SM7b is a dynamic mic and doesn't put out as strong a signal as a powered condenser mic....so you will find that the D8B's pres have to be dialed up near full to deal with it. However there may be one D8B detail at play here contributing to the noise factor: The Channel Menu Filters. This was a noble idea implemented badly. The general consensus has been: open up this menu and turn 'em all off.
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